Terry Carroll discusses the 1970s counterculture and how the Vietnam War affected students' lives on campus. Interview on April 22, 2011. (3:36)

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Well and in State's case you were introducing mixed genders too. 00:00:00.000 - 00:00:05.606
We had one woman's dorm and I think it was less than a hundred. 00:00:05.606 - 00:00:10.398
Anyway, there was one dorm over close to the administration building. 00:00:10.398 - 00:00:12.610
Men and women weren't allowed to mix. 00:00:12.610 - 00:00:16.881
You had all that going and you had kind of a Southern "Animal House." 00:00:16.881 - 00:00:26.241
I mean I loved the movie because if you were kind of involved in that sort of thing there is a lot of truth in that movie. 00:00:26.241 - 00:00:33.239
Then you had all the wild stuff in California 00:00:33.239 - 00:00:40.261
and we were a very conservative area from my perspective at that point in time. 00:00:40.261 - 00:00:43.950
And of course you had the music going on, all that was going, 00:00:43.950 - 00:00:49.537
free love, I mean you got to throw that in there, streaking; all that stuff is going on. 00:00:49.537 - 00:00:54.008
You had a lot of protests with the war. 00:00:54.008 - 00:00:59.943
I experienced that as a soldier, I experienced that, you know, holding a rifle on other college students when I was in D.C. 00:00:59.943 - 00:01:07.155
I was in service up in Quantico and, you know, you had a loaded magazine, 00:01:07.155 - 00:01:11.928
and Kent State had occurred. Four people had been killed at Kent State. 00:01:11.928 - 00:01:15.607
You had the gas stuff and fights and stuff breaking out there, people opening other people's gas tanks to siphon gas. 00:01:15.607 - 00:01:26.916
Prices were going through the ceiling. 00:01:26.916 - 00:01:30.276
People wondered about how they were going to pay their tuition, drive to campus, do these sorts of things. 00:01:30.276 - 00:01:35.524
We did have some racial riots at the time, 00:01:35.524 - 00:01:42.747
not when I was in office but when I was there earlier when Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. 00:01:42.747 - 00:01:49.096
We had martial law. I'll never forget that. 00:01:49.096 - 00:01:53.595
You had curfews to be in. 00:01:53.595 - 00:01:55.898
The jeeps drove up and down on Poole Ave. kind of making sure that students stayed on campus. 00:01:55.898 - 00:02:02.809
I think we had like a 6:00 curfew we had to be in. 00:02:02.809 - 00:02:06.280
Then of course Nixon, whom I really detested but I have learned to appreciate, 00:02:06.280 - 00:02:14.365
Nixon was handed a very difficult situation. 00:02:14.365 - 00:02:18.639
The world was crazy. 00:02:18.639 - 00:02:21.804
There was a double standard in terms of the racial stuff. 00:02:21.804 - 00:02:29.166
There was equality in Vietnam but there wasn't equality when you came home, so that was going on. 00:02:29.166 - 00:02:38.209
In some ways people have said that we were on the verge of revolution. 00:02:38.209 - 00:02:43.257
I don't know if we were on the verge of revolution but it was a hot powder keg. 00:02:43.257 - 00:02:46.453
So you had all that stuff going on 00:02:46.453 - 00:02:51.223
and you had students becoming more assertive, 00:02:51.223 - 00:02:57.237
and of course a lot of it had to do with the draft 00:02:57.237 - 00:03:01.807
and I dare say--and I shouldn't say this and it's politically bad to say this-- 00:03:01.807 - 00:03:06.052
but if we had the draft today we would be seeing a whole lot more in terms of protests and everything else, in terms of the wars that we're in. 00:03:06.052 - 00:03:13.341
We don't, and I think that is--. In my opinion, and I haven't studied it or anything, but I would say that is the single biggest factor that differentiates today from late '60s, early '70s. 00:03:13.341 - 00:03:28.826

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